Friday, July 23, 2010

Can anyone think of a better way to fight terrorism, than to stop using oil?

I am not anti oil, anti company profits, or an extreme tree hugger, but I think countries that support terrorism probably make $0.25 (this is a guess) for every gallon of gas or home heating oil we use.





Also wouldn't the US government be better served in this battle by forcing the price of oil down to lower prices than to build jets and bombs? (Also, I am more hawkish than doveish)Can anyone think of a better way to fight terrorism, than to stop using oil?
Currently, about 45% of all of oil consumption goes towards gasoline production. Another 21% goes towards home heating oil. Even if we were able to eliminate that consumption tomorrow, we would only drop our oil consumption by 66%. While that's significant, the immediate result of it would be drop oil prices.





Now, it costs a certain amount of money per barrel to extract oil from the ground. In some places it costs more than others. The U.S. is one of the most expensive places to extract oil - primarily due to regulations. The Middle East is one of, if not the, cheapest. Given this, what do you think would be the most likely result of a drop in world wide oil prices? The most likely result would be a decimation of U.S. DOMESTIC oil production. Though we could meet our needs domestically, without price supports, tariffs, deregulation, or an outright ban on imported oil we would probably just end up buying the rest of oil we use from the Middle East. And, the Middle East would be able to set the price to just below the point where it started becoming economical for consumer countries to produce it themselves.





Just reducing our oil consumption wouldn't get the job done. There would have to be further political involvement - which would have foreign policy implications, not the least of which would be a (correctly) perceived deliberate attack by the U.S. on the Middle East economies.Can anyone think of a better way to fight terrorism, than to stop using oil?
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In having worked for Mobil Oil and just 6 years after the merger when the last of the heritage Mobil Oil Employees were thrown out, we had processes in place to prevent this spike within the industry. Trading is the problem coupled with the lack of refining capacity and with the war now consuming our tax dollars, they are utilizing the profits of the big oils to offset the cost of the War. Oil had settled to 40 dollars (and below) a barrel however if you recall when the US Supreme Court ruled that George no longer had a credit card in support in payment for the WAR, the product spiked.





Question that must be asked now is: What happen to the 2700 synthetic fuel pattens that Exxon inherited from Mobil in 1999 ??





AGC 21 Technology (Synthetic Crude)


M Gasoline Technology _ Conversion of Natural Gas into Synthetic Gasoline and at a cost of 41 cents per gallon.





The very first synthetic fuels (gasoline plant) was New Zealand Synthetic Fuels by which 25 percent of the ownership was to Mobil. Today, they manufacture synthetic gasoline at 25 dollars per 42 gallon barrel yield.





The earth will never run out of fuel (I.E Gasoline). Our heritiage Mobil Oil Scientists saw to that !!!





The mergers have created the problem that we face and with the Oils owned by the Arabs (Five of the six largest shareholders are Arabs for ExxonMobil) what do they care !! They control both sides of the process...... now thanks to the Federal Trade Commissions and Alan Greenspan (Fed Reserve) who beat the drums for these consolidations. Remember, they paid him well for his appearances at those luncheons!! Competition through synthetics would resolve this issue in no time flat! George honestly thought that this war would take 41 days. We are now going on our 4th year.
March the White House on October 5th.
Leave It God, God is the great Equalizer, he will take all that's wrong with the world off your shoulders, if you just release your burden to him.
Create a replacement for oil that works just as well and we wont have to use oil. until then ..your plan wont work.
i would shoot our nuclear missiles to ur mom an **** her up!! jk niggg
I don't think we can do that because the world is still not prepared for free energy. So the war can not be stopped until they stop stealing and abusing from our kindness.
Turn the whole mideast into a huge lake of green molten glass- by using nuclear weapons.





But, before we do that- we invite every nation to send over 50 representatives- that is, from each nation- and actually use an above ground nuke as an example.





If you continue doing this, this is what we shall do to your nation. Please enjoy your lunch prior to being shipped back home- thank you





This should end all discussion
lucky_i_2003 seems to have a pretty good idea to solve the terrorism debate. I have to smile thinking about it , but, it is so outrageous and politically incorrect that I like it.


At the very least lucky has an idea that will win the contest without further debate regardless of who disagrees or not.
How in the hell are we going to stop using oil in time to make a difference in the war on terror? First of most terrorists organizations are already rich, so they can sustain themselves even without new oil money, and second, it will take decades to ween our culture, economy, and infrastructure off fossil fuels. By then this war will be well over with and we'll be fighting a new war....over something else.
Terrorism existed and thrived long before the automobile, and terrorists will always come up with an excuse for their activities, even if we run our cars or heat our homes on solar power.





Even if ';government'; could cap or reduce oil prices here, the oil would just go to other countries willing to pay the higher price, and many of them have long paid twice what we do in the U.S.
I read somewhere that the US had the opportunity to drill oil wells in Alaska that would produce all the oil we would ever need and we would never have to rely on another country for oil again but because of the humanitarians or nature/animal activists the US decided not to.....Not sure about these details ....
There's no easy solution. We got ourselves in this mess, We have to deal with it the best way we can.
If you keep asking intelligent and balanced questions, which in an enlightened community would encourage constructive debate but which here causes these creatures here to experience throbbing pain behind their eyes where humans keep an organ known as a brain, you will get reported.
To change the price of oil, one has to change the economics of Renewable Energy. The oil economic disaster greater to investors than investing in Renewable Energy infrastructure is not having a replacement for fossil fuels.





The environmentalist equation to say Renewable Energy is directly economically viable - add in all the cost of damages fossil fuels create to the cost side of them while deleting all the capital cost from Renewable Energy side. This doesn't work for investors.
Think about it differently; if we stopped using middle eastern oil and the market subdued because of that its likely the economies of middle eastern nations will suffer quickly. That would be a recruiting tool for the al queda types in their war against the West. They hate our freedoms, they hate our lifestyles, our religion and everything about us. The oil does not matter; we either kill them, join them, or die. When America wakes up and realizes these are our choices it will be a very scary planet - I say that because America won't wake up until its hit (harder).
Maybe if we helped the other countries lower their umemployment rates, increased their literacy. Maybe if we quit backing countries that oppress their citizens.
Killing terrorists.
there were muslim extremists before the world ran on oil.
Oil as a weapon was used for the first time in 1973 after the Arab-Israeli war and Muslim nations who control most oil wealth realized for he first time the power of this weapon. So this threat is known for more than three decades and lot of research is already at hand for alternate solutions. Unfortunately present state of technological development is oil-based and will put great strain on economies if oil prices shoot up to say 200$ a barrel. It might also lead to more wars on diplomacy and real as well and may even lead to toppling of regimes sitting on oil fields and reaping benefits and doing nothing for their people. Not using oil is not a solution. If oil resource is unjustly used by regimes which are not working for the common good of their people then time will evolve/force solutions to eliminate this unjust control of oil.
You have a simple solution for a complex issue. For the past century we have developed a dependence on oil word wide. In doing that we made insignificant countries rich and powerful. We are now having to repay the costs that this change to the world order created.
its good point ,their taking the oil off the market from there any way no one gonna want to pay $3-5 per gallon .for very long.think how hard its gonna be for school starting
A good idea, and I support it. However, it seems now to be more a clash of ideologies/societies, kind of a reverse Crusades. To be honest, even if we didn't use a drop of oil here, I think they ('Muslim extremists'; would still be attacking Western socities.





Specifically, as long as the US continues to support the State of Israel, whom many Muslims are avowed to destroy, we will be on their hit list.
your right im gonna put water in my gas tank next time
huh, i dont know but thanks for the 2 points
Yeah. Nuke 'em till they glow then shoot them in the dark.
Nuke Tehran comes to mind
We can blow away entire nations, without Nuclear weapons, we have MOABs. 22,000lb conventional smart bombs with nuke blast power but NO radiation.





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WE have Tomahawks with fuel-air explosive war heads. The big Tomahawks can carry 10 war heads. They can burn entire cities with fuel-air explosive.





First the MOAB, when the shock wave clears, in comes the Tomahawk. The entire city is flattened and then burned with fuel-air explosive. The fuel-air explosive burns everything left and it burns off all the oxygen. There is no way to survive!





With our satellites we can target every Arab city in any terrorist nation, and then lock them all into a firing solution. Then at 3am any morning the order was given, every Arab city targeted could be blown clean off the face of the Earth, all at the same time.
Good IDEA ! The problem is that economic powers greater than us are in the game: not just the oil related industries, but also the weapon's industry have too much to loose where the world to find an alternative to oil...We are not talking about individual governments anymore, but about the infrastructure of economical powers that really rule the world...
Do you walk to work? Or maybe bicycle to work? If not, then shut up.
The terrosists are at my view, the secret government within this country and other's...





Education, and deprogramation is the only way, peoples are conditioned to react this way or another....





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